Day Four in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next Witness Is Sarena Sharp.

 

Adam Cox, Lori’s brother and a professional pickleball coach, testified about his concerns regarding Lori’s unusual beliefs, her increasingly close and "odd" relationship with Alex, his suspicions of her affair with Chad Daybell, plans for an intervention with Charles to address her behavior, and his conviction that Lori and Alex conspired to kill Charles, reflecting on strained family dynamics throughout his testimony. Darkmatter: Day Four in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Lori's Brother Adam Cox Is The Next Witness.

Sarena Sharp, a resident of Queen Creek, Arizona, testified in court about her experiences from 2018-2019 when she lived in Connecticut before relocating to Arizona prior to the COVID pandemic. Sarena, who identifies as LDS and considers herself spiritual, attended two "Preparing a People" conferences focused on emergency preparedness and preparing for the second coming of Jesus Christ.

In November 2018, she attended a conference in Arizona where she had known Melanie Gibb and Jason Mow through prior phone conversations. Both offered to host her during her visit. Melanie picked Sarena up from the airport and instead of staying at her own home, took Sarena to her friend Lori Vallow's house. This was Sarena’s first meeting with Lori. Sarena also met Chad Daybell at Lori’s house that weekend. She later encountered Chad again at a February 2019 conference in Idaho. Contemplating a move to Idaho, Sarena met with Chad and explored housing options in Rexburg with a realtor.

In March 2019, Sarena was invited back to Arizona for a girl’s weekend at Zulema’s house. She believes she first met Zulema at the November 2018 conference in Arizona. Participants in the girl’s weekend included Lori, Melanie Gibb, Zulema, Christina, Nicole, and Sarena—all members of the LDS Church. During the weekend, Lori shared beliefs that went against the teachings of the LDS Church, including the claim that repentance was no longer necessary. Lori cited Bible verses to support her view, but Sarena doesn’t recall if Lori applied it to herself or the entire group. Sarena later told police in April 2021 that Lori tried to convince everyone of this belief, which deeply shocked and concerned her.

Sarena also recalled Lori discussing "light and dark levels" and changes both physical and spiritual. Lori introduced the concept of "casting," or casting out evil, which Sarena remembers being mentioned on multiple occasions. During the March 2019 girl’s weekend, Lori claimed her husband Charles was possessed by an evil spirit named "Ned." Lori even described this possession as being related to the term "zombie," which stood out to Sarena as a shocking and unusual belief. Sarena stated that she initially thought of zombies as a Hollywood concept, but Lori explained them in terms of evil spirits inhabiting a person.

During the group casting, Lori requested the women’s help to cast out the spirit from Charles, asking everyone to take turns. Sarena noted that this practice was entirely new to her and something she had never done or heard of in a group setting. Sarena recalled that this casting occurred only once during the weekend. She raised questions about Lori’s claims and discussed her concerns with the other women, which seemed to change the dynamics within the group.

Later, after Charles’ death in July 2019, Zulema organized a girl’s lunch that Lori attended with her brother Alex. During the lunch, Lori invited the women to her house to talk. Sarena attended and noted Lori’s stoic demeanor, observing no signs of mourning or crying despite her recent loss. Multiple women, including Melanie Gibb, were present at Lori’s home. Sarena found Lori’s behavior concerning, given the circumstances, and sent her a few texts afterward expressing her worries, though they had little contact after that. Sarena never saw Lori again following that meeting.

During Lori’s questioning in court, she asked Sarena for specifics about the use of the term "zombie." Lori asked if Sarena was certain Lori had used the term at the girls’ weekend in 2019. Sarena responded to the best of her recollection, explaining it was six years ago, and she didn’t remember verbatim. Sarena acknowledged it was possible someone else had used the term "zombie" instead, but this stood out to her in connection to Lori’s descriptions.

Lori questioned Sarena about the girl’s weekend, asking why she stayed if she felt uncomfortable with some topics. Sarena explained that she had flown across the country to be with friends, which made it difficult to leave. Lori confirmed with Sarena that she was a grown woman with her own opinions, and Sarena agreed. Lori also asked if it was fair to say they had a fun weekend, which Sarena acknowledged was true. Lori suggested that Sarena may have since changed her perspective about the weekend.

Lori asked about Sarena’s communications with others, including Christina Atwood, Zulema, Kay Woodcock, and Melanie Gibb. Sarena shared that she communicated "many" times with Christina, sometimes weekly or daily, though she wasn’t sure how to quantify it. She confirmed occasional contact with Melanie but stated she didn’t know Kay Woodcock. Lori also inquired about Sarena’s recollection of Lori’s statements on repentance, asking what exactly was said. Sarena explained she couldn’t remember verbatim but recalled Lori saying something to the effect of not needing to repent.

Lori asked how many times Sarena had been interviewed by police. Sarena said she had been interviewed a couple of times, with the first occurring in spring 2020 by Nate Moffatt, though she didn’t recall how long the interview lasted. Lori further questioned what Sarena could contribute in meeting with police for 90 minutes about someone she had only met a few times. Treena objected to this line of questioning as speculative, and the judge sustained the objection. Lori asked what Sarena told police during the interviews but was again met with objections to the broadness of the question, which the judge sustained. Lori asked if Sarena had anything to offer today in relation to the crime Lori is charged with, prompting another sustained objection for relevance. Lori asked if Sarena ever saw or heard anything about Lori conspiring with her brother to murder her husband, to which Sarena replied "No."

Treena returned for re-direct questioning, asking Sarena if being "translated" is something unusual to her. Sarena said she has read about it in religious books but doesn’t know anyone who has been translated. Treena also asked about prayers during the girls’ weekend. Sarena acknowledged the group said other prayers, such as over food, but stated the casting prayer felt very different. Treena inquired whether Sarena had gotten together with other women from the group to fabricate a story about Charles being possessed, which Sarena denied. Treena confirmed with Sarena that everything she testified to was to the best of her knowledge and noted that six years had passed since the events. Sarena’s testimony concluded.

Day Four in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Lori's Brother Adam Cox Is The Next Witness.

 

Day three of Lori's trial included testimony from veteran officer Daniel Coons supporting the sequence of Charles's shooting, Nancy Jo Hancock's insight into Charles's kind yet strained personality and her shock at his death, and Christina Atwood's account of disturbing beliefs and actions within Lori's relationship. Darkmatter: "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day Three Recap.

Adam Cox, Lori’s brother and a professional pickleball coach, testified as the next witness. He previously worked as a radio morning show host in Wichita and grew up in Southern California. Adam mentioned his four siblings—Stacy, Alex, Lori, and Summer—and noted that Lori and Summer were particularly close. Melanie Boudreaux, Stacy’s daughter, is Adam’s niece. Adam acknowledged that Lori, his sister, was present at the defense table.

In July 2019, Lori was married to Charles, with whom she had been together for over ten years. After Charles’s death, Lori married Chad. Lori had two children, Colby and Tylee, from a prior marriage before marrying Charles. During their time together, Adam’s son Zac lived with Lori and Charles. Charles also had two sons from a prior marriage, who visited occasionally but did not live with them. In 2019, JJ and Tylee resided with Lori and Charles.

Adam confirmed that Lori and Charles didn’t always live in Arizona—they had also lived in Texas and Hawaii. When asked about his relationship with his brother Alex “Al,” Adam described it as somewhat close. He noted that Lori and Alex had a normal sibling relationship but grew closer over 4-5 years, with a brief period when their closeness became “odd.” He said Charles and Alex had a typical brother-in-law relationship. Their family often held big events where everyone came together.

Adam grew up as a member of the LDS Church and is still a member. He noted that Alex was excommunicated twice as an adult but was unsure of the exact dates. When asked about excommunication, Adam explained that it involves the church removing certain privileges and denying access to the temple.

Adam shared that he and Charles communicated through texts and phone calls. Charles had a family cell phone plan, though Adam was unsure about car insurance. Charles worked in insurance, assisting schoolteachers with their financial situations, and traveled frequently for work. Prior to marrying Charles, Lori worked as a hairstylist, but she stopped working after their marriage to focus on caring for the children "for the most part." 

Adam mentioned discussing Lori and Charles’s marital problems with Charles. He revealed that Lori held beliefs outside the teachings of the LDS religion. Lori told Adam she was in the process of transitioning from a mortal to an immortal, celestial state—a concept Adam had not encountered in the LDS faith. She also claimed to have more priesthood authority than the priesthood itself, which Adam found strange, as the priesthood is traditionally held by men in their religion. While Adam did not confront Lori directly, he expressed his disbelief, saying, “I don’t know if you’re crazy but what you’re saying is not real.” After this interaction, Lori stopped speaking to Adam.

Adam tried to inform his family about Lori’s unusual beliefs, but one reaction was that Lori was in a delusion and would eventually come out of it. Adam said, “They basically cut me off,” referring to his family. At the end of June 2019, Adam reviewed an email Charles received about Chad coming to Arizona to write a book about him. Charles, who had played minor league baseball, was not interested in the proposed book. The email was from someone impersonating Charles, which led Adam to suspect that Lori was having an affair with Chad Daybell. Adam and Charles discussed the matter. Adam noted that Charles thought Lori was overboard in her behavior, including attending the temple five times a week. Charles believed that if Lori’s temple recommend were revoked, it might bring her back to normal.

Adam also spoke with Charles about planning an intervention for Lori. Charles was desperate because members of their family refused to speak with him, likely due to Lori’s influence. Charles proposed an intervention to record Lori’s statements, share the recording with the stake president, and attempt to bring Lori back to mainstream LDS beliefs. Adam explained that wards are smaller church groups, and several wards form a stake, which is led by a stake president—a high-ranking figure in the LDS Church. The intervention’s goal was to revoke Lori’s temple recommend. Charles discussed flying Adam to Arizona to assist with the intervention and offered to buy his plane ticket. At the time, Lori, Charles’s parents, Alex, and Summer all lived in Arizona.

Adam reached out to Alex and asked if he could stay with him during his trip to Arizona. Alex agreed initially. Adam flew to Phoenix on July 10 but ultimately did not stay with Alex. Upon landing in Phoenix around lunchtime, Adam texted Alex but received no response, which he found unusual. Adam also tried calling Alex, but Alex did not answer—a behavior Adam considered strange and bizarre. Alex never followed up or contacted Adam. As a result, Adam stayed at his parents’ house instead. Adam did not see Charles or Lori on July 10. His parents picked him up, and they went to lunch and later spent time at the house. Zac, Adam’s son, was living with his grandparents at the time. Charles had planned to pick up JJ and take him to school. Adam noted that Charles and JJ shared a very close relationship.

On July 11, Treena Kay moved to admit text messages from the morning of that day. Lori objected, claiming the texts were a report, not an extraction. The judge overruled the objection, and the texts were displayed in court. Adam knew Charles had reached out to Lori about the fake email from Chad and recalled Charles also reaching out to Tammy Daybell. The texts revealed exchanges between Charles and Adam regarding their travel plans. At 9:11 a.m. on July 9, Charles messaged Adam about how they could all meet without Lori discovering the intervention. Adam responded that he would visit Lori and record her without her knowledge. In the texts, Adam emphasized the importance of being on record to have “proof for Holmes,” the stake president. Another text mentioned Zac and Brandon, who had played basketball with Adam and Holmes. Adam thought Brandon might be able to help with the intervention.

At 1:13 p.m. on July 9, Charles informed Adam that his flights were booked and expressed concern that Lori might grow suspicious. Adam noted that when Charles had previously tried to serve Lori with divorce papers, she had disappeared, and no one knew her whereabouts. Charles worried she might flee again, as she was “flighty,” according to Adam. Charles planned to take JJ to school and mentioned using a second recording device to ensure they captured Lori’s statements. Adam described Charles as “desperate,” viewing the intervention as a last-ditch effort to free Lori from the "spell she was under." Despite everything, Charles stated that he still loved Lori. The texts showed ongoing communication between Adam and Charles. Adam did not recall speaking with Charles on July 10, the day before he was shot, and assumed they would meet on July 11 without specific plans. On the morning of July 11, Charles texted Adam, “Al is here. At Lori’s.” This shocked Adam, who responded, “Really...I wonder why he never called me back.”

Adam then texted Charles, “They are planning something.” Adam felt deeply suspicious, especially about Alex being at Lori’s house that morning, which “felt like something was really off.” Adam texted Alex again, but Alex did not respond. At 7:49 a.m., Adam texted Charles to say he planned to play basketball with Zac, noting that Holmes, the stake president, was usually present either playing basketball or conducting interviews. Adam intended to catch Holmes for a conversation, describing him as “an old friend.” Charles never responded. That evening, Adam and Zac played basketball, but Holmes was not there. Adam did not learn of Charles’s shooting on July 11, as no one in his family informed him. On July 12, Adam still heard nothing from Lori, Alex, or any other family members. The following day, Adam visited a friend named Eric in Tucson, taking Zac with him. Adam expressed to Eric how suspicious it was that he had not heard from Charles, saying, “My mind was spinning. I had no clue what was going on.” Adam speculated that Charles might simply have wanted to be with JJ but wondered if other issues were involved. 

Adam eventually asked his family if anyone had heard from Alex, but no one had. Adam had kept the intervention a secret at Charles’s request, fearing that Alex, Mom, Dad, or Summer might try to prevent it. While speaking with Eric, Adam mentioned that something felt off. Eric asked for Charles’s last name, Googled him, and discovered that Charles Vallow had been killed by his brother-in-law. Adam described the moment as “chaos, a knot in my stomach, probably one of the worst feelings I’ve ever felt in my life.” Adam knew Alex regularly went shooting. He never told anyone in the family about the intervention, yet Lori told police she was aware Adam had been planning one. When asked if he had told her about it, Adam responded, “No.”

Treena asks Adam to recount the story of Nephi, a prophet whose brothers attempted to kill him. Nephi was sent to retrieve sacred plates from Jerusalem, making multiple attempts as directed by the Lord. During his final attempt, he encountered King Laban, who was drunk and lying on the ground. Adam explains that Nephi was instructed by the spirit or God to kill Laban, which he did.

The conversation then shifts to Charles’s death. Adam describes the emotional impact of learning about it—shock, grief, and anger. He stuck up for Charles, which created a break in the family and led to a period where they didn't speak for a long time. Since then, communication has resumed. Adam first reached out to Kay to confirm the news, and she had just learned of it herself. He then called his mom, who knew about Charles’s death but acted strangely, challenging Adam to explain the situation. This strained their relationship further, and a tense conversation at her house deepened the rift.

Treena has no further questions, and Lori begins her cross-examination. Lori lists all the cities where Adam worked and notes, “And I was in Texas, Arizona, Hawaii.” She asks if they have not been physically close during the last 20 years, to which Adam agrees. Lori then asks if Adam saw, heard, or personally witnessed her conspiring with Alex Cox to murder Charles Vallow. Adam states, “No.” Lori thanks him and concludes her questioning.

Treena resumes questioning and asks Adam if he has spoken to Lori since Charles’s death. Adam says no; he had cut off all communication after Lori began expressing beliefs about becoming a celestial being and sharing other ideas that conflicted with LDS faith. After Adam challenged her beliefs as untrue, their relationship effectively ended. Treena also asks Adam if he was supposed to be with Alex on the 10th until the 11th, to which Adam responds, “If I would have spent the night with him, yes.” Adam reflects that this stood out to him, as he had made plans with Alex.

Later, Adam testifies about concerns regarding Alex and guns. Adam was aware his brother had guns and was concerned about Alex being at Lori’s house so early. It seemed unusual that Alex brought a loaded gun with extra magazines to a house where JJ was present. Lori objects, claiming this line of questioning is beyond the scope, but the judge overrules. Adam didn’t know at the time that Alex had a gun and extra ammunition at the house, but he now believes it was excessive. Adam told his family afterward that he believed Lori and Alex had conspired to kill Charles. He mentions Lori's claim that Charles’s body was inhabited by a zombie named Ned. Adam firmly states, “No doubt in my mind that they killed him.” Treena has no further questions, and the judge acknowledges that this line of questioning was beyond the scope. Lori is allowed to re-cross on these issues but declines after consulting her advisory attorneys. The judge asks if the jury has any questions; they do not. Adam’s testimony concludes.

Darkmatter: Day Four in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next Witness Is Sarena Sharp.

"Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day Three Recap.

On the second day of Lori's trial, firefighter Scott Cowden, retired captain Kent Keller, and veteran officer Daniel Coons testified about CPR efforts, crime scene observations, and evidence collection related to Charles Vallow's death, with discussions covering protocols, signs of death, and firearm details. Their testimonies highlighted key findings and investigative processes, as well as questions from both the prosecution and Lori addressing crucial aspects of the incident. Darkmatter: "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day Two Recap.

Day three of Lori's trial featured veteran officer Daniel Coons back on the stand. Treena's re-direct examination highlighted Coons' investigative methods, evidence analysis, and bullet trajectories, supporting the conclusion that Charles was standing for the first shot and on the ground for the second. Darkmatter: Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Daniel Coons with the Chandler Police Department Back On The Stand.

Nancy Jo Hancock's testimony highlighted her brief relationship with Charles, his kind yet stressed demeanor, his efforts to move forward from marital struggles, her shock at his death, her interactions with family and law enforcement, and her responses during Lori's cross-examination, which included objections and judicial warnings. Darkmatter: Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next witness is Nancy Jo Hancock.

Christina Atwood, a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, testified about her relationship with Lori Vallow, revealing disturbing beliefs and actions, including claims of Charles being possessed by dark spirits, castings, drugging Charles, unsettling remarks from Alex Cox, and Lori's dismissal of repentance and negative comments about others. Darkmatter: Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next witness is Christina Atwood.

Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next witness is Christina Atwood.

 

Nancy Jo Hancock's testimony highlighted her brief relationship with Charles, his kind yet stressed demeanor, his efforts to move forward from marital struggles, her shock at his death, her interactions with family and law enforcement, and her responses during Lori's cross-examination, which included objections and judicial warnings. Darkmatter: Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next witness is Nancy Jo Hancock.

Christina Atwood, who has lived in Arizona since 2009 and is a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, testified about her relationship with Lori Vallow. They met at church around 2010, and Christina’s son and husband worked with Lori in the church's primary program. After Lori and Charles Vallow moved to Hawaii, Christina’s family visited them during a vacation in 2015. During the visit, Christina and her family spent time with Lori and her children, JJ and possibly Tylee, though Christina isn't certain if Tylee was present. They also spent time paddleboarding on the ocean. Christina was acquainted with Colby Ryan but didn’t know Charles' other sons from a previous marriage.

Christina also testified about running into Charles and Lori at the temple around 2018 after they had moved back to Arizona. She recalled Lori inviting her to Hawaii, likely in late summer or fall of 2018, though she wasn't positive about the timing. Christina later spoke with Rexburg Detective Ron Ball in 2021 and confirmed that Lori wanted her to go to Hawaii in 2019.

Treena Kay, the prosecutor, admitted a recording to help Christina refresh her memory about why Lori wanted her to go to Hawaii. Christina recalled Lori expressing unhappiness with Charles and mentioning that she had gone to Hawaii without informing many people. Lori told Christina that JJ was with Charles in Houston and that Charles had tried to have her temple recommend taken away, which was one of the reasons she left. Christina told the police in 2021 that Lori did not want Charles to know her whereabouts when she left for Hawaii. Christina was unsure how long Lori stayed in Hawaii.

Christina knew Lori and Charles were separated. JJ was with Charles in Texas, while Tylee was staying with Uncle Alex. Lori was also living with Alex, according to Christina. Christina did not know Lori had gone to Idaho until December 2019 but eventually learned Lori was back in Arizona. Lori invited Christina to a group meeting in February or spring of 2019. The meeting, held at Zulema Pastenes' house, included attendees such as Zulema, Melanie Gibb, Nicole Earl, and Serena Sharp. Christina does not recall who invited her to the meeting. This was the first time Christina met Zulema, Melanie, and Serena, though she already knew Nicole.

At the meeting, Lori expressed concerns about dark spirits plaguing Charles. Treena asked Christina if Lori said Charles was possessed by dark spirits. Christina did not recall but acknowledged that she had told police in 2021 that this was the first time she heard of Charles being possessed by a dark spirit. Christina stated that if she said it then, it was accurate. Lori mentioned that Charles had a dark spirit and was possessed, but Christina could not recall the name of the dark spirit. The group met in the evening, possibly twice in a weekend, and Serena was visiting from out of state. Treena asked if listening to the recording of Christina's interview with police would help her recall, and Christina agreed that it would.

After listening to the police interview, Christina confirmed that she had told police a spirit had possessed Charles but could not remember the name. She recalled Lori speaking about Charles being possessed on more than one occasion and being open about it. Christina also noted that Lori had at least two phones and a third line that was a home landline. Lori was not working at the time, and Christina did not know Lori to have ever worked. Treena asked Christina if Lori ever talked to her about castings, and Christina confirmed that Lori had. Castings involved praying for dark spirits to be cast out of someone. Christina was in Lori’s presence when Lori prayed for the evil spirit to leave her husband. When asked if people were assigned different elements as part of the casting, Christina could not recall.

On June 9, 2019, Christina attended another gathering at Zulema’s house. The attendees included Zulema, Alex Cox, Melani Boudreaux, Nicole Earl, Melanie Gibb, Lori, and another unidentified woman.

Treena asked Christina about her impressions of Alex Cox. Christina described Alex as loud and outspoken, and she felt very uncomfortable with what he was talking about. After the meeting, Lori continued to express that Charles was possessed. Christina recalled being asked to fast and pray for Lori's family. The group gathered outside for a prayer, led by Lori, before breaking their fast and eating together. Alex participated in the prayer outside. As they were breaking their fast, Alex said he wished he could kill Charles. Christina noted that Alex made this statement more than once and described it as jocular, with Alex speaking loudly and standing up while saying it. Lori was present during one of the times Alex made this statement but did not react or admonish him. Christina found these statements upsetting.

Christina also testified that Lori told her she had crushed up some of JJ’s medication and put it in Charles’ drink mix. When Treena asked if it was a significant amount of medication, Christina confirmed that it was and described being disturbed by this revelation. Alex had no reaction to this. Christina did not stay much longer at the gatherings and left. The next day, she asked Lori to meet with her. During their meeting, Christina expressed her concerns about what had been said and described it as disturbing. She told Lori that if something happened to Charles, she would go to the police. Lori dismissed the concerns, saying they were just being silly and dramatic. Lori also minimized her actions, claiming she had not given Charles as many drugs as she had said the day before. Christina noted that Lori began making statements that went against her religion and claimed she no longer needed to repent.

Christina explained that these statements stood out to her because, in her faith, members believe everyone except Jesus Christ needs to repent. Lori began talking about knowing members of her group in prior lives. At the last meeting in June, Serena was not present. Christina overheard Lori speaking negatively about Serena, saying she did not believe Serena would be good after all. After Christina spoke to Lori, Lori did not invite her to anything until August, when Lori invited her to lunch. In July, Christina received a text message that Charles had been killed. Initially, Christina believed it was a brother-in-law who had killed Charles, but she later realized Alex had been involved. Christina does not recall the name of the dark spirit that Lori claimed inhabited Charles. Treena concluded her questioning, and Lori stated she had no questions for Christina.

Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next witness is Nancy Jo Hancock.

 

Day three of Lori's trial featured veteran officer Daniel Coons back on the stand. Treena's re-direct examination highlighted Coons' investigative methods, evidence analysis, and bullet trajectories, supporting the conclusion that Charles was standing for the first shot and on the ground for the second. Darkmatter: Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Daniel Coons with the Chandler Police Department Back On The Stand.

Nancy Jo Hancock testified about her brief relationship with Charles, whom she met through an LDS dating site in early July 2019. They bonded through extensive texting and long conversations, during which Charles shared details about his strained marriage with Lori. Despite the challenges, Nancy Jo remembers Charles being "strangely calm and kind" toward Lori. She described Charles as funny, kind, great at banter, and an overall "awesome guy," even amidst the chaos surrounding him. Nancy Jo knew that Charles and Lori had a child living with Lori at the time, and she was aware of Charles' older children as well. She clarified that their relationship was not exclusive, noting that another woman had sent Charles provocative photos and requested money—something Charles found humorous.

Nancy Jo met Charles in person for the first and only time on July 10, 2019. After Charles' flight delay, they spent the evening at a restaurant talking until it closed, continuing their conversation outside by Nancy’s truck for another 30-45 minutes. She recalled Charles being "like a kid on Christmas morning" with excitement to see his son JJ, whom he planned to take to school the following day. Charles was also looking for a place to live and planning to meet with Adam Cox. Nancy Jo noted that Charles was very fit and strong, and despite all the personal struggles he shared, she was surprised by how kindly he spoke of Lori. He expressed hope that Lori would be a good mother, which Nancy Jo found unusual—most men she had dated spoke about their exes in more critical terms.

During their interactions, Charles told Nancy Jo he had changed his life insurance beneficiary to Kay. Nancy Jo suggested he inform Lori about this, considering the safety concerns and financial implications Charles had described. Charles chuckled and agreed it might be a good idea. Nancy Jo stated she had "no beef in this case" and was unfamiliar with Charles' or Lori's family at the time. On July 11, Nancy Jo texted Charles around 11 a.m., asking about his morning with JJ, but received no response. After calling him later that day and still hearing nothing back, she was puzzled by his lack of communication and assumed he had decided not to continue their connection. She had no idea that Charles had been shot and killed. Months later, in December, she was shocked to see Charles' photo on TV alongside the announcement of his death on the date of their meeting. Realizing the timing, she reviewed her text exchanges with him and confirmed that their date had taken place just one day prior to his tragic death.

During Lori’s questioning of Nancy Jo, Lori confirmed they had not met before. Lori asked if Nancy Jo had any way to verify that Charles was going through a divorce, to which Nancy Jo said no. Lori then asked if Nancy Jo was surprised to learn later that Charles was not divorcing; Nancy Jo responded that Charles was in the process of getting a divorce. Lori pressed Nancy Jo, asking if she would have gone on a date with Charles if she knew he was married and if Nancy Jo dates married men—questions which drew objections from Treena as argumentative and harassing, both sustained by the judge. Lori also asked if Charles and Nancy Jo spent their entire date speaking about Lori, to which Nancy Jo quipped, “Don’t flatter yourself, No.” Nancy Jo clarified they also talked about the church, their families, and other topics. When asked whether Charles had talked about Tylee, Nancy Jo said she didn’t believe so. Lori further questioned Nancy Jo about Charles’ life insurance policy, asking if he mentioned its value. Nancy Jo said Charles disclosed it was $1 million but did not elaborate further.

At one point, Lori asked whether it was common for men Nancy Jo dated from the website to talk extensively about their ex-wives. Nancy Jo replied, “It’s actually very common.” Lori responded with “Interesting,” prompting an objection from Treena. Lori apologized and promised not to repeat such remarks. Lori also questioned Nancy Jo about the timing of her text messages to Charles, seeking specifics. Nancy Jo replied that they were sent after dinner but did not recall the exact times. When Lori pushed for further details on what Charles had discussed with Nancy Jo, Nancy Jo reiterated that she had already testified to the topics they covered. Lori demanded more specifics, leading the judge to call for a sidebar. The judge cautioned Lori, saying, “Are you sure you want the witness to answer the question about what things were said about you? Because you’re opening a really big door.”

Lori continued with additional cross-examination, noting that her questioning would take more time. Lori began by confirming that Nancy Jo had seen news of Charles’ death on TV. Nancy Jo stated that after seeing this, she reached out to Kay Woodcock and has since texted her occasionally about unrelated matters. Lori asked how many times Nancy Jo had texted Kay, though Nancy Jo couldn’t recall an exact number—possibly more than ten. Lori then asked if Nancy Jo’s messages to Kay had been turned over to the state, and Nancy Jo explained that they hadn’t, but she would have provided them if asked. Lori questioned Nancy Jo about her interactions with Treena Kay, learning that they had met in person once, had one other phone call, and exchanged text messages about logistical details related to appearing in court. Nancy Jo couldn’t estimate the number of texts exchanged. When asked about the duration of her meeting with Treena, Nancy Jo said it lasted around an hour to an hour and a half. She confirmed no one else was present at that meeting.

Lori asked if Nancy Jo had ever spoken to Adam Cox, Charles’ brother. Nancy Jo explained that she had encountered Adam at her grandson’s pickleball tournament, where she recognized him from media coverage related to Lori’s case. Nancy Jo greeted Adam, and he asked who her grandson was on the team. She noted that she knew who Adam was, but she didn’t believe Adam knew who she was at the time. Nancy Jo introduced herself by name during their brief conversation. Additionally, Nancy Jo mentioned that Lori’s brother had appeared on a dating app using Adam’s photo but under a different name. She messaged the account, advising the person not to use someone else’s photo. During Lori's questioning, she asked Nancy Jo how many messages she had sent to Adam and whether she had scheduled a date with him. Nancy Jo laughed, clarifying that she had not.

Lori asked if Nancy Jo had ever interacted with Brandon Boudreaux. Nancy Jo shared that Brandon attends the same church as her daughter and had been at her daughter’s house briefly. Nancy Jo knew who Brandon was because her daughter told her, but Nancy Jo did not introduce herself to him and may not have spoken to him directly that day. Lori asked if Nancy Jo was aware that Brandon was married to her niece, which Nancy Jo confirmed she knew. 

Lori asked if Nancy Jo had spoken with law enforcement about the case. Nancy Jo confirmed she had spoken with Det. Nathan Moffatt in 2020, likely in April, during a phone interview lasting about 45 minutes. Nancy Jo clarified that she and Treena Kay first communicated about 4–5 weeks ago, which included their first meeting. Lori asked if Nancy Jo was aware that Lori didn’t know Charles was on dating websites, but Treena objected to the question as speculative, and the judge sustained the objection. Nancy Jo shared that Charles had assumed Lori was having an affair and moving on. Lori asked Nancy Jo if it would be fair to say that she had only known Charles for about a week, to which Nancy Jo agreed. Lori followed by asking if Nancy Jo had any contact with Charles after their date on July 10, and Nancy Jo replied, “Well, he was dead.” Lori confirmed that Nancy Jo contacted Kay Woodcock five months after Charles died to express her condolences about his passing, their dinner together, and how much Charles loved JJ. Lori cut Nancy Jo off mid-response with a curt, “Thank you. That’s enough.” She then walked back to her table, concluding her cross-examination.

Treena began her re-direct questioning by confirming that Nancy Jo had reached out to police after learning Charles was dead, rather than the police contacting her. Nancy Jo shared that Charles had told her he changed his life insurance policy beneficiary to Kay and had spoken about how much he loved JJ, their adoption of JJ from Kay, and other details. Nancy Jo recalled feeling overwhelming shock when she saw Charles’ case discussed on TV. Treena asked Nancy Jo if she had shared all of the information Charles told her during her police interview, and Nancy Jo admitted she likely hadn’t, as the interview was conducted in an ask-answer format. She had expected to be interviewed again but was surprised when no follow-up occurred.

Treena clarified Nancy Jo’s interactions with Adam Cox, asking if Nancy Jo had ever discussed the case with Adam. Nancy Jo confirmed she hadn’t spoken to him about case details, noting that their conversation at the pickleball tournament a week and a half ago might have included general mentions of their testimony but no specifics. Nancy Jo shared that Adam had also seen her grandson during that encounter. Treena asked if she and Nancy Jo had discussed what Nancy Jo told police during their meeting, to which Nancy Jo confirmed they had. Nancy Jo also affirmed Treena had instructed her to "just tell the truth."

Finally, Treena asked if Charles made an impression on Nancy Jo. She described Charles as a "large personality," noting his wit, gregariousness, and southern accent, which left a strong impression on her. Nancy Jo also confirmed that Charles had expressed verbal indications of stress during their interactions, adding "definitely" when questioned on this point. While she began to elaborate, the judge instructed her to keep her answer concise. Neither the defense nor prosecution had any follow-up questions, and Lori conferred briefly with her investigator before concluding her involvement.

Darkmatter: Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next witness is Christina Atwood.

Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Daniel Coons with the Chandler Police Department Back On The Stand.

On the second day of Lori's trial, firefighter Scott Cowden, retired captain Kent Keller, and veteran officer Daniel Coons testified about CPR efforts, crime scene observations, and evidence collection related to Charles Vallow's death, with discussions covering protocols, signs of death, and firearm details. Their testimonies highlighted key findings and investigative processes, as well as questions from both the prosecution and Lori addressing crucial aspects of the incident. Darkmatter: "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day Two Recap.

Day three of Lori's trial began with veteran officer Daniel Coons back on the stand. 

Lori rigorously questions Coons about her husband's shooting, focusing on the gunshot wound, stippling, evidence collected, and the trajectory of the bullets. Coons confirms he was not present during the incident and relies on factual evidence in his conclusions. Lori probes the relationship between Charles and Alex, leading to multiple objections on relevance, which the judge sustains. She challenges Coons' memory of his report, prompting him to review it, and they discuss the "shored wound" referenced in his report.

The questioning transitions to Charles' clothing. Lori clarifies that his shirt was cut down the side, not cut off entirely. She asks about measurements for the bullet holes and revisits whether the shirt's fabric could have contributed to the shored wound, but this is objected to as repetitive and sustained by the judge. Lori questions the current location of Charles' shirt, which Coons believes is in evidence. He recalls the shirt being placed in a drying cage and entered into evidence but admits he did not test it and does not know if others tested it.

Lori shifts focus to the wood floor where the projectile was found. She asks Coons if the defect in the floor could have existed prior to the incident; Coons denies this but acknowledges it as a possibility under sustained objection. Lori presents an exhibit showing the defect in the wood floor and compares it to other marks, asking Coons if he can confirm that the defect was caused by the bullet. Treena objects, citing repetitive questioning, and the judge sustains. Lori asks whether the baseboard paint was tested, to which Coons responds that it was not because the bullet's path and embedding were clear. Lori finds this reasoning fair.

Coons explains the trajectory of the bullets—one passed through Charles, exited his body, and embedded in the floor, while the other lodged in the baseboard. Lori asks about the distance between Charles' shoulder and the bullet fragment, which Coons estimates to be a foot or more. She questions his decision not to test the wood floor or the shirt, but these objections are sustained as repetitive. Lori asks if Coons contacted the shirt company about the fabric, which he did not. She speculates whether the upward trajectory of the bullet could have been caused by Charles falling backward, but Coons disagrees.

Lori questions Coons about his presence during her interview at the police department; he clarifies he was at the scene shortly after 9 a.m., not at the department. She asks about Alex’s wound, which Coons observed covered with a paper towel, and whether Alex’s hands were swabbed for gunshot residue. Coons explains this was unnecessary as Alex admitted to being the shooter. Lori asks if her hands or Tylee’s hands were swabbed, which Coons is unaware of. Lori summarizes the known facts of the case, emphasizing uncertainties about who shot Charles, the timing of the shooting, and Charles’ death. Coons responds, and Lori concludes her questioning.

Treena begins her re-direct examination, focusing on Coons' observations and methods during investigations. Coons confirms that he observes crime scene techs and is informed when investigators find something significant. Treena introduces the gun used in the shooting, asking about its ejection mechanism and casing behavior. Coons explains the casing ejection process and notes that casings can bounce, roll, or be moved after landing, meaning their locations do not necessarily indicate where they initially landed. Treena presents a diagram of the house, and Coons explains his use of triangulation measurements to document bullet fragments relative to objects in the room. She asks Coons to describe the rounded wall near where Charles’ body was located. Using a photo of Charles on the ground, Treena indicates the general area in the house where the shooter was likely positioned, which Coons identifies as near the kitchen and hallway.

Treena continues her questioning, asking Coons about the autopsy report. Coons confirms he reviewed the report but notes that the word "stippling" was not included. He explains that during the autopsy, he was in the mandated viewing area. Treena uses a tape measurer to demonstrate the distance between the gun and Charles’ chest, which Coons estimates to be 2-4 feet. She shows the photo of Charles and indicates where the shooter would have been standing. Treena hands the wooden floor piece, encased in a plastic bag, to the jurors for examination. Coons describes the defect in the floor caused by the bullet as distinct from other imperfections, noting a linear mark with a semicircular edge. Treena displays a close-up photo of Charles’ body and the projectile embedded in the floor near his head. She discusses Charles being rolled onto his right side, exposing his left shoulder. Treena asks if the bullet was ever moved, but Coons states he is unaware of its condition until he physically saw it.

Treena asks Coons hypothetical questions about the trajectory of a bullet fired upward, which he explains would hit the ceiling or wall. She then asks how the bullet trajectory into the baseboard aligns with Charles standing upright when shot. Coons explains that the bullet path accounts for the room's dimensions, striking Charles, hitting his spine, and then embedding in the baseboard. He notes that Charles’ wound was slightly downward, and the other bullet in the room accounted for Charles’ second injury. Treena asks about Coons’ process upon arriving at a scene, to which he responds that he assesses the scene, applies the information provided, and lets the evidence guide him. Treena asks if the evidence supports that Charles was standing when shot the first time, and Coons agrees. He also confirms that the shooter was in the kitchen/hallway area for the first shot and that Charles was on the ground when shot the second time. Treena concludes her questioning.

Darkmatter: Day Three in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Next witness is Nancy Jo Hancock.

"Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day Two Recap.

 

Lori Vallow Daybell's trial began on April 7, 2025, with prosecutors alleging she conspired with her brother, Alex Cox, to murder her husband, Charles Vallow, in 2019 for personal and financial motives, while Lori claimed the act was self-defense due to a violent altercation. Key testimonies included law enforcement and medical perspectives on the crime scene, procedural details, Alex Cox's demeanor, and CPR efforts, with Charles Vallow ultimately being declared deceased upon arrival. Darkmatter: "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day One Recap.

During the second day of Lori's trial, firefighter Scott Cowden testified about performing CPR on Charles, addressing Lori's questions on first-time CPR training, the time of death, documentation, scene timeline, CPR's impact on chest wounds, and the "crunch" sound during compressions. Prosecutor Treena Kay questioned Cowden about 911's CPR instructions, his role during CPR, Charles' clothing after death, and the purpose of CPR, before concluding her questioning and dismissing the witness. Darkmatter: Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Fire Fighter Scott Cowden Is Still on The Stand

Kent Keller, a retired Chandler Fire Department captain, testified about overseeing his crew's efforts on July 11, 2019, to assist Charles, emphasizing the importance of effective CPR, noting the absence of prior CPR, and observing signs like lividity and skin modeling. Keller addressed questions from Lori and Treena about staging protocols, patient evaluation, CPR evidence, ACLS protocols, and the authority to end life-saving measures, concluding that Charles was already deceased before their arrival. Darkmatter: Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Witness Kent Keller from the Chandler Fire Department Was Up Next.

Daniel Coons, a seasoned Chandler Police Department veteran, testified about his extensive training and role in processing the crime scene on July 11, 2019, detailing evidence collection, photographic documentation, and observations of Charles Vallow's gunshot wounds and autopsy findings. He addressed questions from Treena and Lori about the investigation process, firearm details, and the shooter's positioning, providing clarifications and emphasizing the importance of thorough evidence collection. Darkmatter: Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Daniel Coons with the Chandler Police Department Testified Next.

Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Daniel Coons with the Chandler Police Department Testified Next.

 

Kent Keller, a retired fire captain, detailed his crew's response on July 11, 2019, recounting their roles, CPR efforts, observations of death indicators, safety protocols, and concluding that Charles, a gunshot victim, likely had not received CPR before their arrival. Darkmatter: Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Witness Kent Keller from the Chandler Fire Department Was Up Next.

Daniel Coons, a 30-year veteran of the Chandler Police Department, testified about his extensive training, including SWAT cross-training, sniper instruction, and certification as a shooting reconstruction expert through a hands-on course. Coons explained that he applied these skills throughout his career. On July 11, 2019, while serving in the homicide unit, he responded to a shooting incident after hearing about it on police radio. Upon arrival, he found a secured crime scene with officers and tape marking the area.

Other detectives soon arrived at the scene, and Coons was assigned responsibility for ensuring proper processing of the scene. He focused on capturing the scene exactly as it appeared before entering. Coons accumulated evidence, reported back to the case agent, and created a diagram reflecting the scene. The diagram, introduced by Treena as an exhibit, provided an overhead view of the room along with a list of reference points. It depicted a body lying in the center of the room with a bat next to it and yellow markers throughout the diagram, although it was noted that the exhibit was not to scale.

The bat was lying near Charles Vallow’s body, and he was holding a baseball card with his body positioned in front of a mirror. A second camera viewpoint from higher in the room provided another perspective, stopping over Charles’ body. Coons returned to the witness stand while the image remained displayed on the screen. When asked by Treena whether photographs are still utilized at crime scenes, Coons affirmed, “100%.” He explained that while the LizardQ system is valuable, it is limited to the perspective of the camera, whereas standard photography allows for comprehensive coverage. Treena introduced over 100 photographs into evidence, and Coons reviewed them, confirming their accurate depiction of the house on the day of the shooting.

Treena then began unpacking shrink-wrapped items from a tote, including the baseball bat recovered from the scene. Coons elaborated on how evidence is processed, documented, assigned reference numbers, and entered into police records. Lori Vallow was then presented with the photographs.

Coons further testified that everything at a crime scene is photographed. He described wearing gloves while collecting evidence, which are changed regularly to prevent contamination, such as the transfer of blood. Crime scene technicians photograph each item, change gloves, and place the evidence in envelopes before moving on to the next item. Treena displayed the diagram on the screen again, highlighting placard #1, and Coons noted that certain pieces of evidence were cut out and brought to the police department. He emphasized that the entire residence is photographed during an investigation, as it's impossible to determine what may or may not become relevant. The photographic process typically begins with exterior shots of the house. One such image showed the main entrance with yellow crime scene tape stretching from a truck to the front door. Lori objected to the admission of the photos, arguing that some should not be included, while Treena moved to admit them all.

The judge reviewed the photographs and decided to admit them as exhibits, stating that they would assist the jury in visualizing the scene and determining where items were located. Exhibits displayed on the screen included Alex's pickup truck parked in the driveway, the front door, and a hat on the floor of the front room marked with placard #1. Additional images captured various angles of the crime scene, such as the northwest corner of the room looking south, showing a pair of flip-flops and Charles’ body on the floor. Coons described the wall with a mirror in the room and explained photographs of a hallway extending to two bedrooms and a bathroom. Multiple angles from inside the house were presented, including one showing Charles’ body from a different perspective.

A close-up photo of a Reebok hat on the ground next to placard #1 was shown, followed by images of a bullet strike in the baseboard. A closer photo revealed the bullet lodged in the baseboard, with part of the baseboard pulled back to expose the projectile embedded in the wood. Another photo displayed a bullet in the hand of someone wearing a blue glove. Treena moved to admit two additional photos. The baseball bat, marked as evidence #3, was also shown in photographs, highlighting the “fat edge” of the bat rather than the handle. Coons stated that they were searching for visible evidence on the bat but did not observe any, including biological evidence. Treena then moved to admit the actual bat, which was wrapped in plastic.

Item #4, displayed on the screen, was a metal projectile from a bullet recovered northeast of Charles Vallow’s body. Coons noted some deformation to the projectile. Treena moved to admit a photo of the projectile found near Charles’ body. Coons observed a small amount of blood on Charles’ chest, which Treena pointed out in the photo, but there was no blood on his arms, extremities, or the floor around him. Blood was pooling underneath his body. Placard #5 marked a shell casing at the scene, while placards #46 and #47 were associated with a .45 automatic pistol. Coons explained the mechanics of a projectile being fired through a gun barrel, with the casing remaining as the cartridge component that holds the powder charge, primer, and projectile.

Treena displayed additional photos of bullet casings and placards marking them inside the home. She moved to admit two exhibits, which were the actual casings from the room. When asked if police move the body during scene processing, Coons stated that they do not; they wait for the medical examiner’s office to move the body, with police present during the process. A photo was shown of the room after Charles’ body was removed, revealing blood on the floor. Photos of the floor included placard #13, which marked a defect in the wooden floor. Treena presented other photos showing defects in the ground, including a larger gap directly beneath Charles’ shoulder, where an exit wound was observed. Coons stated that the marking in the floor was consistent with a bullet strike. That portion of the floor was removed “with great pain,” and Treena displayed a photo of the removed floor section. She then held up a bag containing the piece of wood, showed it to Lori for inspection, and walked it to the witness stand for Coons to examine.

Treena Kay presented photos of the house and the gun Alex Cox used to shoot Charles Vallow. The gun's magazine was removed by police for safety, leaving one live round. An orange duffle bag contained a gun box matching the firearm, along with cartridges and baby wipes. Treena admitted the gun and box into evidence without objection. Photos of the house, including rooms and a kitchen trashcan, showed no signs of blood or bloody items. Coons confirmed there was no blood observed anywhere in the house except for the sink faucet in the kitchen and the area where the body was. He explained that investigators have one chance to gather evidence and critical information immediately after an alleged crime.

Coons described gunshot wounds on Charles Vallow’s body: bullets in the sternum and abdomen, and wounds near the spine and shoulder blade. He noted two entrance wounds and two exit wounds, detailing the trajectory of a bullet that passed through Charles and embedded in the baseboard of the room. Measurements of the body were taken before it was moved. Coons attended Charles’ autopsy, observing through a window and communicating with the medical examiner via phone. The autopsy supported his belief that Charles was shot while lying on the ground. Coons left the house around 4:30 p.m., concluding his involvement in processing the scene. Treena had no further questions.

Lori requested a sidebar and returned to the courtroom smiling. She asked to use photo exhibits during her cross-examination, which began with her asking if Coons was the scene agent that day. He confirmed he was. Lori questioned Coons about his prior work experience, learning that he had been in the military, the Department of Corrections, and other roles before becoming a police officer. She asked when Coons wrote his report on the incident, but he could not recall the exact timing, estimating it was “within a week.” Lori also inquired about who was at the scene when he arrived; Coons mentioned patrol officers, Alex Cox, and possibly the fire department.

Coons stated that upon arrival, the team debriefed and devised a plan for the investigation. Lori asked which detectives were present, and Coons named a few but noted he did not take a roll call. After the debriefing, Coons provided information to a detective at the police station to secure a search warrant. Once they received the warrant, the team entered the house between 11:30 and 11:45 a.m. Coons entered with the crime scene technician and possibly Detective Duncan, forming the initial group to go inside. Following entry, the team followed standard procedures, including photographing the scene, using LizardQ for panoramic imaging, gathering data for a diagram, and continuing their investigative work.

Lori asked if detectives went to the same rooms or divided tasks, and Coons confirmed they “divided and conquered.” He explained that photos were taken starting around noon but didn’t track the time as the house and job were extensive. Coons emphasized that he focuses on doing his job rather than timing his work. He did not personally handle most of the evidence, as crime scene technicians typically handle evidence collection. Coons noted that investigators collaborated with crime scene techs throughout the investigation. Lori asked what else Coons did at the house, to which he explained his day revolved entirely around processing the scene, including searching for evidence, taking measurements, and waiting for the medical examiner.

Lori inquired about the firearm found, a .45 caliber, and asked how it differed from a revolver. Coons described a revolver as a "wheel gun" like those seen in western movies, whereas modern police officers typically carry semiautomatic guns. Lori also asked if "center mass" is a common term in gun training, which Coons confirmed as standard police training. When asked if someone being attacked should aim at center mass, Coons agreed. However, Coons clarified that if teaching a novice, he would not simply teach them to aim at center mass but rather to shoot until the threat was neutralized.

Lori then asked about whether .45 caliber guns could shoot to the left. Coons explained that while some guns can be set up to shoot to the left, the gun in question was configured to shoot to the right. Regarding shell casings found close to the wall, Coons noted they were just inches away and stated that this trajectory seemed consistent with expectations. When Lori inquired about possible divots in the wall, Coons acknowledged the potential for microscopic divots but did not observe anything significant himself.

Lori asked if Coons walked through the house with Alex, and he confirmed that he did. She inquired about whether Coons saw Alex standing in the room where he claimed to have obtained the gun. Lori asked about Alex’s interactions with officers, but Treena objected on hearsay grounds, and the judge sustained the objection. After a sidebar, Lori returned and asked Coons where he would place the shooter in the room. Coons replied that for the first shot, the shooter was positioned in a more eastern direction, and for the second shot, more to the north. Lori also questioned whether Alex had moved and then paused to collect her thoughts.

Lori asked Coons about his observation of the autopsy, specifically regarding stippling. Coons did not recall if stippling was noted in the coroner’s report and explained that he was not an expert on stippling patterns, suggesting consultation with the lab for clarification. At this point, Lori concluded her questioning for the day.

Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Witness Kent Keller from the Chandler Fire Department Was Up Next.

 

On the second day of Lori's trial, firefighter Scott Cowden faced questioning from both Lori and prosecutor Treena Kay about CPR procedures, potential harm, Charles' injuries, and logistical details, concluding with juror questions and his dismissal. Darkmatter: Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Fire Fighter Scott Cowden Is Still on The Stand

Kent Keller, a retired captain from the Chandler Fire Department with 32 years of service, testified about his responsibilities and experiences. He was responsible for scene safety and ensuring his crew could assist the injured. Keller’s four-person crew had distinct roles: one member charted and focused on the big picture, while the other three assisted directly with the patient. Their priority was to assess if treatment was necessary and provide it, all while minimizing disruption to the scene.

Keller described responding to a home on July 11, 2019, where he worked on a patient named Charles. He explained how "good" CPR is vital to get blood pumping effectively. The house was empty, giving Keller's crew a clear path to Charles. Keller noted there was very little in the room except Charles, a baseball bat, and a ball cap. Once the crew began assessing Charles, Keller noticed a spent bullet round on the floor, though he didn’t see it initially. At the time, at least one officer was clearing the house. Charles was lying on his back, with his head toward the door the crew entered and his arms at his sides. He had a gunshot wound to the center of his chest, a hole in his shirt, and a small amount of blood pooling around his collarbone. Keller remarked that Charles appeared fit and noted that if adequate CPR had been performed, he would have expected more blood on and under Charles. “I didn’t see any blood when we first got there,” Keller said.

Keller explained that firefighters would remove a patient’s shirt to check for exit wounds and gunshot injuries, ensuring nothing was missed. Charles had no pulse and was not breathing. Keller questioned the need for CPR in such cases, noting that it’s unclear how long the patient had been without a pulse or breath. He added that firefighters would have cut Charles’ shirt, checked for gunshot wounds, and performed compressions. When Charles’ body was rolled, Keller observed lividity and skin modeling. He explained that modeling is a patchy skin condition caused by insufficient oxygen, possibly due to the heart not beating. Lividity, the pooling of blood, takes longer to develop as blood drains to the lowest part of the body.

Keller further explained that patient evaluation, including exposing the patient, starting CPR, and other assessments, happens simultaneously. The heart monitor showed no electrical rhythm, and Charles’ pupils were fixed, indicating no reaction. Firefighters increased the amount of blood under Charles during CPR but observed no active bleeding, signifying no heartbeat. Keller explained that he, along with the crew, decides when to end life-saving measures. In this case, Scott Cowden also agreed to stop, and they ceased efforts. Defibrillator pads were left on Charles’ body after life-saving measures ended.

Keller mentioned that he informed a man outside, who was speaking with police officers, about the situation. He noted that the person outside did not appear injured, but if he had been, Keller would have offered medical assistance. Treena asked if there was a woman with a young woman at the scene and if Keller could see them in the courtroom. Keller confirmed that he saw the adult, identifying Lori at the defense table. He also overheard someone mentioning not being invited to a pool party due to the commotion at the house. Keller stated his belief that Charles was already dead before the crew entered the house and found it highly unlikely that anyone had performed CPR on Charles prior to their arrival. Treena had no further questions, and Lori’s questioning followed.

Lori asked Keller if he was first on the scene, and he clarified that while police arrived first, he was the first firefighter there. Lori inquired about staging, which Keller described as a safety protocol where firefighters wait in a secure location near the scene until it is deemed safe to enter. She asked if instruments are used to determine body temperature, and Keller responded that they are not, adding that such instruments wouldn’t aid him as he hasn’t been trained to use them. Lori questioned Keller about skin modeling and lividity. Keller described skin modeling as a gradual process but could not specify whether Charles was in early or late phases. He admitted he didn’t know how long it had been in effect or if modeling could occur within minutes. Regarding lividity, Keller noted that it was present on Charles’ back and suggested it begins immediately after the heart stops. When asked if medication could affect lividity, Keller said he couldn’t provide an answer.

Lori also asked Keller about the radio process, including who communicates on the radio, such as dispatchers. Keller stated that he was unaware Alex had been instructed by the 911 operator to go outside, noting that he didn’t know who Alex was or how he was involved in the scene. When asked if he could confirm CPR had not been performed on Charles, Keller acknowledged, “I do not know for a fact.” With that, Lori concluded her questioning.

In Treena’s re-direct questioning, she asked Keller what he observes first when the heart stops—modeling or lividity. Keller explained that modeling appears first, while lividity develops much later. Treena asked if Keller had treated people just a few minutes after their heart stopped and observed modeling or lividity in those cases; Keller said no. Treena then inquired about additional signs indicating CPR had been given. Keller stated that witness CPR would be the most reliable evidence, but other signs include an indentation in the chest, a cracked sternum from the rib cage, or increased bleeding in cases of trauma. Keller explained that mechanical compressions would spread blood, yet he observed no blood other than the pooling below Charles’ body. Ultimately, Keller concluded it was his opinion that CPR had not been performed on Charles prior to the firefighters’ arrival.

Treena followed up with questions about using drugs to restart a heart, noting the difference between trauma cases and heart attacks. Keller clarified that ACLS (Advanced Cardiac Life Support) protocols apply. Treena also asked about contacting physicians, and Keller explained that physicians are sometimes patched in—not during a code—but to discuss prior and upcoming treatments as the patient is transported to the hospital. Keller emphasized that paramedics ultimately have the authority to end life-saving measures. No further questions were asked.

Darkmatter: Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Daniel Coons with the Chandler Police Department Testified Next.

Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Fire Fighter Scott Cowden Is Still on The Stand

 

Lori Vallow Daybell's trial began on April 7, 2025, with prosecutors alleging she conspired with her brother, Alex Cox, to murder her husband, Charles Vallow, in 2019 for personal and financial motives, while Lori claimed the act was self-defense due to a violent altercation. Key testimonies included law enforcement and medical perspectives on the crime scene, procedural details, Alex Cox's demeanor, and CPR efforts, with Charles Vallow ultimately being declared deceased upon arrival. Darkmatter: "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day One Recap.

On the second day of Lori's trial, Chandler firefighter Scott Cowden was called back to the stand, with Lori conducting the questioning for the defense.

Lori questioned Scott Cowden about his actions upon entering the house, where he assessed Charles as unresponsive and began CPR, noticing gunshot wounds and blood on Charles' chest. She asked about the use of trauma shears to remove Charles' shirt, the CPR procedures Cowden followed, and the time it took to administer, with Cowden estimating about a minute before Charles was rolled to inspect his back. Lori also inquired about teaching methods for first-time CPR learners, suggesting difficulty without visual aids, which Cowden acknowledged as possible. An objection by prosecutor Treena Kay was sustained by the judge, prompting Lori’s acknowledgment before continuing her questioning. Cowden clarified that Charles' shirt was cut once on the side and likely removed by a colleague while he performed chest compressions.

Additionally, Lori asked Cowden who declared the time of death, to which he responded that Captain Keller, as the crew lead, made the call and documented it. Lori inquired about Cowden's preparation for testimony, which included reviewing dispatch notes, prior testimony, and other documents but excluded the 911 audio. When asked about report documentation, Cowden explained that only one person writes the report, and he did not personally document anything. He also estimated being on scene for roughly 20 minutes, including driving in and out. Cowden further explained the process of driving to the scene, working with the patient, cleaning up, organizing equipment, and departing to prepare for another call. Lori questioned whether Cowden remained in the house after finishing with the patient, to which he replied that equipment was removed, and cleanup occurred outside near the truck.

Lori also asked if Cowden had spoken to the media about the case, prompting an objection from Treena Kay on relevance. After a sidebar discussion following the judge's inquiry into the question's relevance, Lori resumed and noted she had “just a few more questions.” Finally, Lori asked if performing CPR could cause further damage when there is a chest wound, which Cowden said was possible, though the heart was already not beating. They discussed the "crunch" sound during chest compressions, which Cowden compared to cracking knuckles, noting the force needed depends on the individual. After some overlapping dialogue, the judge intervened, and Cowden explained that the sound could occur if CPR is performed forcefully enough. Lori concluded her questioning shortly after.

During prosecutor Treena Kay's questioning, Cowden addressed whether 911 regularly instructs people on performing CPR, clarifying that while he is not part of 911, he has heard 911 provide guidance over the radio to help circulate blood before firefighters arrive. Treena asked if Cowden had traded CPR duties with anyone, to which he responded that he did not, as another EMT prepared the heart monitor while he administered CPR. Treena also confirmed that once Charles was declared deceased, his clothing was not modified further and would have remained as it was, with his shirt around his neck if left there. Cowden stated that CPR had not been performed before his arrival and emphasized that while CPR might cause further injuries, its purpose is to get the heart pumping. Treena concluded her questioning, followed by juror questions being submitted to the judge for review during a sidebar. The witness was then dismissed.

Darkmatter: Day Two in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: Witness Kent Keller from the Chandler Fire Department Was Up Next.

"Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day One Recap.

Lori Vallow Daybell's trial began on April 7, 2025, with prosecutor Treena Kay presenting evidence that Lori conspired with her brother, Alex Cox, to murder her husband, Charles Vallow, in July 2019, using extreme religious beliefs to justify the crime. Treena argued the murder was staged as self-defense so Lori could marry Chad Daybell and claim Charles' life insurance money, which she later discovered was not hers, urging the jury to convict her based on text messages, witness testimonies, and crime scene evidence. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Prosecution Opening Statements.

In her opening statement, Lori Vallow Daybell, representing herself, emphasized her long marriage to Charles, their shared life raising five children, and her claims that the events leading to Charles' death stemmed from his threatening behavior, strained relationships within the family, and a physical altercation involving her brother, Alex. Lori recounted the events of July 11, 2019, asserting she acted to protect her children and fled with them during the commotion, while maintaining her innocence and framing the situation as self-defense rather than conspiracy or murder. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Defense Opening Statements.

The state’s first witness, Sgt. Irwin Wierzbicki of the Chandler Police Department, testified about responding to the scene of Charles Vallow’s death, describing Alex Cox as calm and compliant and finding Charles motionless with two gunshot wounds. During cross-examination, Lori questioned his observations, qualifications, and recollections, while on re-direct, Wierzbicki clarified his actions to preserve the crime scene and detailed the timeline from the CAD report showing the call and his dispatch. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: States First Witness Sgt. Irwin Wierzbicki

Robert Krautheim, a retired Chandler Police officer, testified about his involvement in the July 11, 2019, shooting scene, including interactions with Lori, Tylee, and Alex Cox, who declined medical attention for a minor head injury. Lori’s cross-examination focused on procedural details and Alex’s calm demeanor, while Treena’s re-direct clarified Krautheim’s observations and timeline, concluding his testimony. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: States Next Witness Robert Krautheim.

Scott Cowden, a firefighter and former CPR instructor, testified about the certification process, CPR's critical role, its physical demands, and preparing trainees for injuries, while describing performing CPR on gunshot victims, including Charles, who showed no signs of life and minimal chest impact from previous compressions. Cowden emphasized that Charles exhibited signs of internal injuries and lividity with no prior CPR attempts and declared him deceased shortly after arriving at the scene. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: States Next Witness Fire Fighter Scott Cowden.

Darkmatter: "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Day Two Recap.

Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: States Next Witness Fire Fighter Scott Cowden.

Lori Vallow Daybell's trial began on April 7, 2025, with prosecutor Treena Kay alleging that Lori conspired with her brother, Alex Cox, to murder her husband, Charles Vallow, in July 2019, staging the crime as self-defense to marry Chad Daybell and claim life insurance money. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Prosecution Opening Statements.

Representing herself, Lori denied the charges, highlighting her family life, strained relationships, and asserting that the events on July 11, 2019, stemmed from Charles' threatening behavior and a physical altercation, which she claimed was a matter of self-defense to protect her children. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025 Defense Opening Statements.

Sgt. Irwin Wierzbicki testified about responding to the scene of Charles Vallow's death, describing Alex Cox's calm demeanor and finding Charles motionless with gunshot wounds, while addressing Lori's questioning and clarifying his actions to preserve the crime scene during Treena Kay's re-direct. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: States First Witness Sgt. Irwin Wierzbicki

Robert Krautheim, a retired Chandler Police officer, testified about his role in the July 11, 2019, shooting scene, including interactions with Lori, Tylee, and Alex Cox, with questioning highlighting procedural details, Alex’s demeanor, and Krautheim’s observations. Darkmatter: Day One in "Doomsday Mom" Lori Daybell's Trial 2025: States Next Witness Robert Krautheim.

Scott Cowden, a Chandler firefighter and former CPR instructor, was next to testify. He described the certification process for firefighters and explained CPR’s vital function—acting as the heart to circulate blood in cases where the heart stops beating. Cowden emphasized the physical intensity required during CPR, which can leave impressions on the skin and possibly break bones, likening the sensation to cracking knuckles but more severe. He also highlighted the importance of preparing people for these outcomes during CPR training.

Treena questioned Cowden about performing CPR on individuals who had been shot, and Cowden stated he was fairly certain he had done so. He confirmed that blood could emerge from the mouth during CPR after a shooting. Cowden recalled responding to Charles’ shooting, noting that in Chandler, fire engines typically carry at least four personnel, including a captain, Cowden as the driver (fire engineer), and two firefighters seated in the back. On the morning of the incident, Cowden and his crew were just 30 seconds away when updates indicated CPR was being administered to the patient, Charles. However, upon entering the house, Cowden found no one performing CPR. The room was empty and lacked furniture, making it easier to work on Charles. There was minimal blood—only on Charles’ chest—and no spread across the scene. Cowden noted there were no signs of life from Charles, such as breathing or moaning, suggesting he was likely deceased.

Cowden testified that Charles was unresponsive, pulseless, and not breathing, with no signs of life. He performed CPR for at least a minute. Treena showed a photo of firefighters working on Charles, which Cowden described, noting he initially saw no depression on Charles’ chest from prior CPR. Upon starting compressions, Cowden felt the typical crack and crunch associated with initiating CPR. While another firefighter cut Charles’ shirt to expose the chest, Cowden instructed her not to cut through the bullet hole; she cut around it instead. Cowden continued compressions and noted Charles exhibited no heart activity. He saw two gunshot wounds on Charles’ body and, upon rolling him, additional wounds on his backside. Cowden wore gloves while performing CPR and observed blood on his gloves after the procedure.

Cowden further testified about changes in Charles’ skin color due to the lack of blood circulation and injuries to his chest and abdomen, which caused internal damage and led to the formation of lividity. He stated that the condition of Charles’ chest and the sensation felt during initial compressions made him believe CPR was not performed prior to his arrival. This incident was Cowden’s first call of his shift, which began at 8 a.m. Cowden and his crew made contact with Charles at 8:45 a.m., actively worked on him for close to five minutes, and discontinued efforts after declaring his death at 8:48 a.m. Cowden recalled seeing a person in the driveway with a police officer upon arrival, whom he assumed to be the brother-in-law involved in the shooting. Cowden did not notice any injuries on this individual and confirmed there was nothing about Alex that suggested he was injured. Cowden believes Charles was dead before he entered the house and finds it highly unlikely anyone performed CPR on Charles prior to their arrival. Treena concluded her questioning.